Some thoughts on the . Not going to become inactive, but this dialogue runs through my head whenever I do surf or toot on here.

@mara_cav_ That's a very nice reflection, and I can relate to many of your observations. In particular the matter of opinions: I always wonder how people here can be so sure of their opinion. I have a lot of expertise and experience in a particular area, and some people post about this topic with such assurance, that if I did not have confidence in my own judgement in that field, I would feel intimidated. I usually don't react to such posts because I'm here to have conversations, not debates.

@mara_cav_ Also this feeling of not-quite-belonging: I'm keenly aware I'm in the out-group, and for those who like labelling, most of the labels that could be applied to me are the less desirable ones in fedi.

I think I see what you mean about learning: maybe it takes some courage to say "I don't have a fully-formed opinion yet, I'm here to learn". Having an uninformed opinion may be easier.
Then again, I have learned a lot from being on fedi. In particular, I've learned a lot about people.

@wim_v12e I've definitely learned a lot just by being on here about the most random things I'd never dream of learning about. Some random trivial things, and other things that definitely make me reflect on my perspective.

It's those strong ideological/political/ conversations that freak me out here. Because walking in knowing very little to nothing, you're typically "not equal" to your conversation partner(s) in some way and they know that. I could be projecting, but that's what it feels like.

@mara_cav_ I think you are wise to realise that you don't know enough and to do your own thinking and not to take what people say at face value.
I rarely participate in that kind of debate. But the value of people voicing strong opinions is that it makes me reflect on the topic.

@wim_v12e @mara_cav_ I'd say what you two are discussing is more a symptom people in general than the medium. So many of us become married to our beliefs, which makes it more difficult to break away. And people have a way of creating an identity around their beliefs; if they let go of those beliefs, they lose a part of themselves. Growing can be quite painful. :)

I agree entirely. What makes fedi for me different from the world outside is not the medium but that the mix of people is quite different. And on the whole more interesting.


@mara_cav_ I want to go through my replies because I feel like you've, as you put it, incited me to respond more than a lot of people have.
I don't get a lot of interaction but I get a little more than I do on Twitter, and that's not even counting for the fact a lot of my interaction on there is with friends I interact with on Discord but aren't here on Mastodon.
Actually. Let me clarify, when I say interaction I mean... replies. I get more likes and RTs on Twitter but... ehh.

@DuthOlec Ah, thank you. I appreciate that. I feel like I say that a lot to you, but I do mean it.

I think engagement partially depends on the content of what you post. I know for me I want to respond to a lot of memes people post, but I can never think of a decent reply. So I simply favorite/like. 🤷

@bix I meant more groupthink in the sense that everyone agrees on everything with no room for natural variation.

But the way you touch on it, yeah, I can definitely see Mastodon as at the very least, groupthink-geared. Most, if not all, social media platforms are groupthink-geared honestly. But Mastodon moreso, because quiet frankly we are primarily and proudly composed of weirdos.

And weirdos are usually thrilled to be in the company of equally weird, if not weirder, people.

@bix I don't know if I could ever believe Mastodon to be a true groupthink machine because of how much it's made me reflect on my own perspective and actions.

But I suppose therein lies a bit of a case in point.

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@mara_cav_ thank you for this. i worry about both the ways that this place can be exclusionary in the ways you described, as well as emphasizing having opinions over being informed, as happens regularly.

some take gets a lot of traction, and it's literally incorrect, or it's so inflammatory that it encourages the same. so then, people take sides rather than it being an educational process.

the same can happen when it's neither, but then it's nowhere near the same degree of problem, in most cases.

trying to juggle that sort of storm, while also doing our best to educate with one arm while (hopefully) de-escalating as needed with the other, can be a challenge.

as well as people having their biases and prejudices, and not always being that willing to cop to them.

being here is definitely home to us! it's also frustrating, at times. so again, thanks for writing this, appreciated.

@mara_cav_ I liked this post and I have some thoughts on it, but don't really have time get into them right now. But I wanted to say: I see you. You're not alone in these feelings.

@mara_cav_ I read a lot of your posts and go "dang I wish I was able to reply to this right now," but they always have just enough nuance that replying takes a bit of work.

But I read a /lot/ of your posts and think about most of them I read.

But even this one I don't have time to give a real response to, but wanted to respond something, given the post.

@emsenn I overthink replying a lot, but I guess I just want to say thank you for reading.

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