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OCTADE<blockquote>"The best way to ensure that would be through a comprehensive consumer data privacy legislation with strong data minimization rules and requirements for clear, opt-in consent. "<br></blockquote>No.<br><br>The best way is NOT 'opt-in' for 'consent'.<br><br>The best way is to just make it a felony to gather telemetry data, period.<br><br>A machine manufacturer has ZERO business gathering telemetry, or even having the technical ability to gather telemetry, on its customer use of machines, unless the use of telemetry is integral to the customer performing a task (like GPS-guided tractor plowing).<br><br>EFF is proposing a softball solution that will not stop abuse. A 'regulatory violation' doesn't stop the rich. FELONY CHARGES do stop them.<br><br>This mental virus of wanting to track everyone is a sign of gross criminality and control freak neurosis. The right thing to do is to pass a federal law just making telemetry gathering and marketing a felony, with no opt-in process, and prohibit tracking devices from existing in the cars in the first place. Nobody needs to know your GPS history to diagnose your engine and drive train.<br><br>"But what about onstar?"<br><br>Do you really think they invented OnStar and similar systems for YOUR benefit?<br><br><a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=tracking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Tracking</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=telemetry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Telemetry</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=onstar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OnStar</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=eff" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EFF</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=gm" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GM</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=generalmotors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GeneralMotors</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=insurance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Insurance</a> <a href="https://soc.octade.net?t=ftc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FTC</a><br>
PrivacyDigest<p>The FTC’s Ban on <a href="https://mas.to/tags/GM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GM</span></a> and <a href="https://mas.to/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> Selling Driver Data Is a Good First Step <br><a href="https://mas.to/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/surveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>surveillance</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/tracking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tracking</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/geoloc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>geoloc</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/ftc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ftc</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs</span><span class="invisible">-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step</span></a></p>
The New Oil<p>The <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/FTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FTC</span></a>’s Ban on <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/GM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GM</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> Selling Driver Data Is a Good First Step</p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs</span><span class="invisible">-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.thenewoil.org/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a></p>
Miguel Afonso Caetano<p>"The Federal Trade Commission announced a proposed settlement agreeing that General Motors and its subsidiary, OnStar, will be banned from selling geolocation and driver behavior data to credit agencies for five years. That’s good news for G.M. owners. Every car owner and driver deserves to be protected.</p><p>Last year, a New York Times investigation highlighted how G.M. was sharing information with insurance companies without clear knowledge from the driver. This resulted in people’s insurance premiums increasing, sometimes without them realizing why that was happening. This data sharing problem was common amongst many carmakers, not just G.M., but figuring out what your car was sharing was often a Sisyphean task, somehow managing to be more complicated than trying to learn similar details about apps or websites."</p><p><a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">eff.org/deeplinks/2025/01/ftcs</span><span class="invisible">-ban-gm-and-onstar-selling-driver-behavior-good-first-step</span></a></p><p><a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/FTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FTC</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/GM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GM</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Privacy</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/LocationData" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LocationData</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/GeoLocation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeoLocation</span></a> <a href="https://tldr.nettime.org/tags/DataProtection" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DataProtection</span></a></p>
Phil Wolff<p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Texas" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Texas</span></a> AG sues <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GM</span></a> for fraud, selling <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> customer data to insurers using it to screw drivers. The AG's filing includes receipts. Asks judge to award $10k per violation, plus $250K for 65+ y/o seniors. (billions) It's having them turn it off, and stop the abuse that will hurt GM the most. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Austin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Austin</span></a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Tesla" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tesla</span></a> next, please. </p><p>Kudos to AG consumer protection attorneys Bridegan, Nordstrom, Lee, and Baasch for protecting <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a>. </p><p><a href="https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/General%20Motors%20Data%20Privacy%20Petition%20Filed.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites</span><span class="invisible">/default/files/images/press/General%20Motors%20Data%20Privacy%20Petition%20Filed.pdf</span></a></p>
Benjamin Carr, Ph.D. 👨🏻‍💻🧬<p>How <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/GM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GM</span></a> Tricked Millions of Drivers Into Being Spied On<br>This <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>privacy</span></a> reporter and her husband bought a <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Chevrolet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chevrolet</span></a> Bolt in December. Two risk-profiling companies had been getting detailed data about their driving ever since<br><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/GeneralMotors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GeneralMotors</span></a> has been selling data about the driving behavior of millions of people to <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/insurance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>insurance</span></a> companies through GM's <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> services plan and Smart Driver program, leading to higher premiums for some drivers, according to a recent investigation.<br><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/technology/general-motors-spying-driver-data-consent.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">nytimes.com/2024/04/23/technol</span><span class="invisible">ogy/general-motors-spying-driver-data-consent.html</span></a></p>
Warren Currie 🦠🦐<p>Wow, canceling <a href="https://ecoevo.social/tags/onstar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>onstar</span></a> is an odyssey. First you have to call, no easy online option, because...easy. Second you have to go through the whole phone menu, verify with a person, have them transfer you to a specialist, then transfer you to an agent who spends 10+ minutes trying to convince you what a terrible idea it is. <br>Don't you want all these things (I don't want). No<br>We have a special discount - I can give you $10 off per month. No<br>I can give you a special wifi rate. No<br>Now saving $400/yr 👍</p>
Daniel M. Reck<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://retro.pizza/@gregly" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gregly</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.art/@analogfusion" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>analogfusion</span></a></span> We definitely let that <a href="https://mas.to/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> / <a href="https://mas.to/tags/SiriusXM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SiriusXM</span></a> <a href="https://mas.to/tags/security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>security</span></a> and convenience package expire ASAP. Didn't want it in the first place.</p><p>If I could, I'd find the vehicle's SIM card and remove it. There is absolutely no reason why my <a href="https://mas.to/tags/vehicle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vehicle</span></a> needs to be hoovering up who knows what information and giving literally anyone access to stalk me or my kids, or steal our <a href="https://mas.to/tags/car" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>car</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mas.to/tags/Stellantis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Stellantis</span></a> builds a fine vehicle, but I don't trust it one bit as a <a href="https://mas.to/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cybersecurity</span></a> operation.</p>
Andrew Gent 🇺🇦 🇬🇱<p>I wonder how much electrical current <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OnStar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OnStar</span></a> sucks off my car's system to maintain its cellular connection? Both while running and while off?</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/auto" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>auto</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ev</span></a></p>