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alxd ✏️ solarpunk prompts

Even making, a middle ground between the hackers and the general public is using very entrepreneur-ed language, leading people to think in terms of companies and growth hacking instead of communities and infrastructure. With the MakerFaires all over the world, how will they change the local cultures, which don't have tech independence traditions as strong as Germany? Will they have any other way to perceive modern technology than the startups, Blockchain and phone apps?

I love the fact that even Gaza has gazaskygeeks.com/ , but I'd love for it to be a community-driven hackerspace, not a startup accelerator.

Do we really want to promote "entrepreneurship" instead of sustainable infrastructures in Egypt, Iraq, Kenya, Nepal? Places being already re-colonized by corporations taking over the universities and kicking out open source from the curriculums?

Gaza Sky GeeksThe First Tech Hub in Gaza - Gaza Sky GeeksBy ibrahim

@alxd interesting. In Seattle & region, the maker/hackerspace movement largely died by 2015. Even the for-profit groups have mostly died.

At least for me the makerspace (as opposed to hackerspaces) thing always felt like a weird appropriation of suburban dad garage shop "culture" .

@pnathan @alxd

I noticed this change a few years back as well, a term began to filter into my hacker/maker channels around the same time:

#makerpro

For me the "maker movement" resembled a reboot of what my parents and their friends (mostly farmers and other rural folk) did back in the 70's. When it started to feel like "business" I started to get alienated by it, and if I'm honest that change has caused a rift between people I know who call themselves "makers".

@jjg @alxd honestly I sort of never felt at home in the "how to do hand tools", "oh, look, machinery " mindset. I was using power tools by the time I was 12: all my dad's friends were tradespeople or other rural workers. Making stuff to do things with was just how we lived. Gimcrackery and affected excitement over our authentic lifes work - which was often drudgery, always underpaid, and all the adults claimed to hate - just feels ... weird and off-putting.

@pnathan @alxd

I hear you. Hard to put it concisely into words but I think I know the feeling you're describing.

There's a fetishization at work that feels weird, and unnecessary.

Don't get me wrong, I savor work well done, both the labor and the results, but this is different.